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<trackbot> Date: 04 April 2011
<bblfish> doodle: http://doodle.com/txugsrtpe2tp9ted
<scribe> scribe: pchampin
<jeffsayre> +1
<bblfish> minutes here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-webid/2011Mar/0096.html
<bblfish> +1
<jeffsayre> Is that Google +1?
RESOLUTION: minutes approved
bblfish: didn't have time to work
on the spec yet
... there has been some work on the IRC channel about test
cases
... I think every implementation of webid should have a
page
... where people can test their certificate,
... with human readable information about the outcome,
... but also machine readable data, to build reports.
... A test agent could then create a webid in RDFa (to test
conneg)
... and crowl different services to test them.
<bblfish> Deiu?
jeffsayre: should we be
monitoring the IRC in addition to the public mailing list
... ?
<Deiu> bblfish, yeah, I'm here
<bblfish> are you on teleconf?
<Deiu> no, sorry (missing a telephone in the office right now)
bblfish: there has been more activity on the IRC lately
<bblfish> you can join here: +1-617-761-6200
<bblfish> ah thre is a SIP client you can use
<bblfish> do you have sip
<bblfish> ?
<Deiu> nope (no headset/mic anyway)
<Deiu> (totally got carried away and forgot about the conference) :(
bbfish: we have now settled the
political issues, should now focus on more technical
issues
... I have more problems than expected with Clerezza, but test
cases are important.
<jeffsayre> +1
bbfish: We need to work on the ontology to allow to build test reports.
<bblfish> http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/
<webr3> by April 22nd 2011
bblfish: we should submit a
position paper at the identity-ws (URI above)
... deadline is april 22nd
... everyone in the group may of course submit something on
their own behalf,
... but as a group we could make a submission as well.
... Harry suggested we should not put to much semweb in
it.
... Buzzword compliant identity system:
... works in current browser or require minimal changes,
... is secure
<webr3> re demo's: data.fm is looking pretty awesome of late
bblfish: then show how webid complies with those criteria
<bblfish> 4 sections:
<bblfish> 1. Buzzword compliant description
<bblfish> 2. WebID description
bblfish: We need to show what are the problems with the browsers.
<bblfish> 3. Demo
<bblfish> 4. Browser issues and improvements
pchampin: +1 to the proposed plan
<webr3> "who"? can work on it?
<bblfish> I'll work in on it
<webr3> ""ACTION, name to etc""
<bblfish> ACTION, jeffsayre position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/
<scribe> ACTION: jeffsayre to start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - jeffsayre
<webr3> ACTION: jeff to start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Start a position paper for Identity in the browser workshop http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ [on Jeff Sayre - due 2011-04-11].
<bblfish> ACTION: bblfish, follow up on Berlin conference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - bblfish,
<webr3> ACTION: henry follow up on Berlin conference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/04-webid-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - Follow up on Berlin conference [on Henry Story - due 2011-04-11].
<gaedke> URL for Berlin?
<bblfish> http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/
gaedke: will probably be in
Berlin.
... my advice for the workshop would be to stick to presenting
webid
... PrimeLife, which is organizing the workshop, make a lot of
work related to identity
... not only on the tech side, but also political
<bblfish> And PrimeLife uses Elgg
gaedke: PrimeLife is a FP7 big project: http://www.primelife.eu/
pchampin: coming back to the IRC
vs. email discussion, I think the mailing list has the
advantage of being asynchronous and archived
... so it would be nice to have a summary on the mailing list
whenever an important discussion happens on the IRC
<webr3> +1
<bblfish> +1
bblfish: it would be nice to have an IRC logger
<jeffsayre> +1
<webr3> http://www.dajobe.org/software/logger/
pchampin: I now that some service used to do that
<webr3> ACTION nathan to find out about logging on w3 irc servers and organize something
<trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - Find out about logging on w3 irc servers and organize something [on Nathan Rixham - due 2011-04-11].
pchampin: but I was more suggesting that someone involved in the discussion wrote a summary for the sake of others
<jeffsayre> Really? I did not receive notice.
<webr3> Next Federated Social Web Telecon Friday April 8th 15:00 UTC
<jeffsayre> Did something go out via the mailing list?
<bblfish> http://www.w3.org/mid/302a810b657346da3e3d170b3c708a6e.squirrel@webmail-mit.w3.org
<jeffsayre> webr3: Hum. I do not recall receiving it.
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/open
<webr3> jeffsayre: was sent on 03/04/2011 17:49 to the group list, should check your subscribed? (I normally do a manual subscribe int he normal fashion to ensure)
action-16: bblfish has been talking to them
<trackbot> ACTION-16 Look into us joining Identity Commons notes added
bblfish: anybody has progressed on the social web XG stories?
<webr3> ACTION 20?
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
<webr3> ACTION-20?
<trackbot> ACTION-20 -- Nathan Rixham to find out how to set actions to be default of 2 weeks -- due 2011-03-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/track/actions/20
jeff: have started, will continue next week
<jeffsayre> pchampin: That is fine. :)
<bblfish> foaf:identity to cert:publicKey
<bblfish> :me cert:publicKey id1, id2, id3.
<bblfish> pk1 cert:publicKey id1 .
<bblfish> pk2 cert:publicKey id1 .
<bblfish> pk3 cert:publicKey id1 .
<bblfish> (my mistake above using foaf)
bblfish: the issue of direction
of the property has already be raised;
... may be it should be the opposite (person -> public
key)
... furthermore, this would be more natural as the pk is almost
a literal
<webr3> can we have a webid: ontology
bblfish: (it is identified by two literals)
Anybody would have a problem with that?
pchampin: no problem with that for me
bblfish: how many people here have an implementation?
<webr3> I have a couple, none released yet (in node.js and php)
bblfish: I have one
<bblfish> webr3, what was the discussion with danbri?
<jeffsayre> pchampin: +1 on Node
bblfish: Another issue is about
namespaces
... using two namespaces is somewhat strange
<gaedke> I think it is a good thing
<mike> yes
<gaedke> everyone deeply thinking
pchampin: +1
<webr3> close ACTION-20
<trackbot> ACTION-20 Find out how to set actions to be default of 2 weeks closed
ACTION-20: web3r discussed that with Dominique Hazael-Massieux (Tracker software author), they say it is not possible for the moment
<trackbot> ACTION-20 Find out how to set actions to be default of 2 weeks notes added
<bblfish> http://doodle.com/txugsrtpe2tp9ted
<jeffsayre> Wife's Birthday on April 11
<webr3> "at this time, on irc"
<webr3> is it not bi-weekly?
bblfish: to webr3: we are thinking on making the telecon weekly
<gaedke> do we do the writing on google docs or the like?
<jeffsayre> +1
<jeffsayre> EtherPad is more freeform, not too structured
<jeffsayre> yes, I'll ping IRC
<jeffsayre> webr3: :) Ideadump
<jeffsayre> +1
<bblfish> trackbot, end meeting
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